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Good day dear administrator Mazhor ,
On 13.05.2022 during the day I Sascha Muth, as well as my wife Elly Muth and my two brothers Rainer Kaffee and FynnLuca Muth were banned for the rule violation 1.4 and 1.8.
( 1.4 It is forbidden to have more than one additional account.) - this means for me that I am not allowed to have any additional characters except my Sascha Muth, which I would then play IC myself . But I have only one account on the island.
- But point 1.4 says for me not that other characters (which I can not play and would not want, because they belong to my wife and my brothers and I have access data), may not log in via my social account (because we live in a house), because they themselves do not have GTA on your PC. ... Which I do not have. I have my account Sascha Muth. My wife has her account and my two brothers have their own accounts FynnLuca Muth and Rainer Kaffee. What they do IC I don't know, is their life IC they play out.
(1.8 It is forbidden to interact between the main account and the twink).
- this point says for me that I would have other accounts that I would play myself, which I do not, at the one PC with Sascha Muth awake and at the other PCs also with other own accounts that I would also play myself in between act, since one then. OOC the same person is acting with several accounts. .... If I and my wife or one of my brothers or both brothers are awake at the same time via my social club account, are they then not allowed to act among themselves, do anything together, play out their marriage IC or anything else, because they are logged in via the same social club account, even though everyone is sitting at their PC.?
Explanation:
In our apartment live me, my wife, two brothers of mine. All 4 of us have an account each. But only I bought GTA through my social account.
Since my brothers are with their account in our family, die IC die same is as well as OOC, Have we said to us that, since we all live together under roof, always me as boss The family and my wife die finances Rules in the IC family the money get from me off and from my brothers. Since we all wanted to save together on a new property as we are penetrated to our current property.
I or we would also have no problem with it, if the login of accounts via a social club account is not desired, (which is not explained under General Rules 1.4 but so) that everyone makes its own social account and buys the game itself.
And since we have only 3 PC in our apartment, one of which is very bad, all have to take turns. My brothers Hätte in the end effect also his own money can keep, which would have run in the end effect But also on it, that they would give me the money & so that I can buy as a boss a new property for the family. All 4 of us had no evil in mind.
My wife and debts go I regularly legal work after and let us on the island nothing to come just like my 2 brothers.
And I have no second, third or fourth identity on the state, but the under accounts have their own personality IC as well as OOC what my brothers are. I, my wife or my brothers do not access the other accounts. We take only one basic account from the social club as a basis for playing, because we have the rule 1.4 so have understood. I don't use the other accounts, only my own. My wife uses hers. And my two brothers their account, when they take turns. None of them has the access data of any of the other accounts. I also have a lot of good friends who are also witnesses, who can also testify how the situation is with me and who lives with me at home. These friends are also playing IC with me.
Please ask Fullbuster from SAHP, or many others from SAHP or staff from EMS, what our ban is about and that 1.4 and 1.8 can not apply, because he knows me and my wife and had both already several times together in front of him and my wife has also already worked at the same job as me and we were both on duty at the same time, which also can not speak for 1.4 and 1.8, although we were both logged in together at the time through my social club, but each at his PC.
We all use the same social club accounts because we understood rule 1.4 to only prohibit having multiple accounts that you play IC as a single person. But not understood to mean that each IC character must have their own social club account. We also asked other players who have been on the island longer than me if you are allowed to do that via a social account, and it was confirmed by all of them that you are. If rule 1.4 had said that each account needed their own social club account, we would have implemented it that way and not the way we have done it now since the beginning.
Of course I/we read everything carefully beforehand, be it the general information on the website and also all points in Discord like the general rules of the server. I agreed with these rules and couldn't find anything wrong with them, so I/we went to the island to start a life as the characters described above. We started together to build something there, be it cars, apartment then house, own family and job, according to all rules and laws die us prescribed and kept us best possible to it. Daily when we log in to wake up we start our PCs and start Rage Multiplayer. Automatically started the social club account of me and the others then log in with their characters, depending on who just wants to play RP) and then usually go together what make like, to the beach market, to the car fair, to the casino and much more. In addition, we perform our service in our organizations, be it Elly Muth EMS and Sascha Muth SAHP or Rainer Kaffee or FynnLuca Muth. There we have already spoken together with several employees be it from EMS or SAHP with both characters, so you could clearly tell that it was two different people OOC does also from the voices. Also, it is so that we understand despite the rules, rule 1.4 so that it IS forbidden to have multiple ACC with IC die sound the same, as well as the same OOC person plays and not that you can not sign up for gta5grand through a rockstar launcher with only character. I can only therefore say that if that is so that we are sorry to have done so, we knew it just really so not, because we understood the rule as described above and us also many after our entry this also so affirmed , that our interpretation of this rule was so correct and that. Even people who are more familiar with the rules than we are to the day.
To the rule 1.8 I can only say so that we understand this exactly as it says there and we die yes not do since everyone plays his character himself and no one of the one or the other has the access data. Ultimately, we use all 2 to 3 PC's and change them so that everyone can always play in our household OOC times IC, and use as already said above for all the same ACC from Rockstar Launcher, which is why probably also there then now found that the multiple ACC for gta5grand there exist.
To the written so far can only say so much, yes we give us money and items. The money is for the family, which is IC/OOC the same, because we would like to buy us a new property. There contradicts itself then the statement with your rule 1.7, since it never so high sums are and/or goods die over 5 million go, but gladly can that in the future, if it one further should also differently be done that the money directly on the bank deposited and then on the family account handed over and no more direct takes place. - To the handed over articles, whereby it can concern only P1 boxes or things from the Battelpass and so. To this I say only that we collect and store IC as a family. So that not every run items must be handed over, & we then die to us THAT one of these can go into storage. In addition we increase also none by something a faster rise in its visa level. Elly Muth and Sascha Muth are already somewhat high in their visa level, nevertheless we increase no advantage from our family and/or push, because everyone must arrange its IC life around at the end of the day something to reach. Of course we use among each other the LVL 3 fishing rods or picks received from Elly Muth and Sascha Muth, but this is not pushing, because you can also acquire them freely on the island. We all just want to comfortably RP together, meet new people, escape the everyday life times and laugh can.
But it is understandable that behind each account is a different OOC person.
We are sorry if we have misunderstood rule 1.4, but now we have been informed and can understand it better and it was not our intention to violate the rule.
We are willing, if we have misunderstood the rule 1.4 and this was also related to the social club account, that my wife and my two brothers each make their own social club account and buy GTA itself. So that something like now no longer occurs.
As said we have more than enough witnesses who can testify that it is not just one player OOC who plays four accounts, but that there are four OOC people who each embody their own character IC.
We would be happy to receive a positive feedback from you regarding our case and we are also willing to have a full conversation with you. Which we already wanted to do with Dane Xozis and Vincent Xozis, but we have been redirected to you. You also need to know that all 4 of us were playing RP for the first time. If we had played on other servers before, we would have known that your server requires each account to have its own social club account and game.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to explain.
With kind regards
On 13.05.2022 during the day I Sascha Muth, as well as my wife Elly Muth and my two brothers Rainer Kaffee and FynnLuca Muth were banned for the rule violation 1.4 and 1.8.
( 1.4 It is forbidden to have more than one additional account.) - this means for me that I am not allowed to have any additional characters except my Sascha Muth, which I would then play IC myself . But I have only one account on the island.
- But point 1.4 says for me not that other characters (which I can not play and would not want, because they belong to my wife and my brothers and I have access data), may not log in via my social account (because we live in a house), because they themselves do not have GTA on your PC. ... Which I do not have. I have my account Sascha Muth. My wife has her account and my two brothers have their own accounts FynnLuca Muth and Rainer Kaffee. What they do IC I don't know, is their life IC they play out.
(1.8 It is forbidden to interact between the main account and the twink).
- this point says for me that I would have other accounts that I would play myself, which I do not, at the one PC with Sascha Muth awake and at the other PCs also with other own accounts that I would also play myself in between act, since one then. OOC the same person is acting with several accounts. .... If I and my wife or one of my brothers or both brothers are awake at the same time via my social club account, are they then not allowed to act among themselves, do anything together, play out their marriage IC or anything else, because they are logged in via the same social club account, even though everyone is sitting at their PC.?
Explanation:
In our apartment live me, my wife, two brothers of mine. All 4 of us have an account each. But only I bought GTA through my social account.
Since my brothers are with their account in our family, die IC die same is as well as OOC, Have we said to us that, since we all live together under roof, always me as boss The family and my wife die finances Rules in the IC family the money get from me off and from my brothers. Since we all wanted to save together on a new property as we are penetrated to our current property.
I or we would also have no problem with it, if the login of accounts via a social club account is not desired, (which is not explained under General Rules 1.4 but so) that everyone makes its own social account and buys the game itself.
And since we have only 3 PC in our apartment, one of which is very bad, all have to take turns. My brothers Hätte in the end effect also his own money can keep, which would have run in the end effect But also on it, that they would give me the money & so that I can buy as a boss a new property for the family. All 4 of us had no evil in mind.
My wife and debts go I regularly legal work after and let us on the island nothing to come just like my 2 brothers.
And I have no second, third or fourth identity on the state, but the under accounts have their own personality IC as well as OOC what my brothers are. I, my wife or my brothers do not access the other accounts. We take only one basic account from the social club as a basis for playing, because we have the rule 1.4 so have understood. I don't use the other accounts, only my own. My wife uses hers. And my two brothers their account, when they take turns. None of them has the access data of any of the other accounts. I also have a lot of good friends who are also witnesses, who can also testify how the situation is with me and who lives with me at home. These friends are also playing IC with me.
Please ask Fullbuster from SAHP, or many others from SAHP or staff from EMS, what our ban is about and that 1.4 and 1.8 can not apply, because he knows me and my wife and had both already several times together in front of him and my wife has also already worked at the same job as me and we were both on duty at the same time, which also can not speak for 1.4 and 1.8, although we were both logged in together at the time through my social club, but each at his PC.
We all use the same social club accounts because we understood rule 1.4 to only prohibit having multiple accounts that you play IC as a single person. But not understood to mean that each IC character must have their own social club account. We also asked other players who have been on the island longer than me if you are allowed to do that via a social account, and it was confirmed by all of them that you are. If rule 1.4 had said that each account needed their own social club account, we would have implemented it that way and not the way we have done it now since the beginning.
Of course I/we read everything carefully beforehand, be it the general information on the website and also all points in Discord like the general rules of the server. I agreed with these rules and couldn't find anything wrong with them, so I/we went to the island to start a life as the characters described above. We started together to build something there, be it cars, apartment then house, own family and job, according to all rules and laws die us prescribed and kept us best possible to it. Daily when we log in to wake up we start our PCs and start Rage Multiplayer. Automatically started the social club account of me and the others then log in with their characters, depending on who just wants to play RP) and then usually go together what make like, to the beach market, to the car fair, to the casino and much more. In addition, we perform our service in our organizations, be it Elly Muth EMS and Sascha Muth SAHP or Rainer Kaffee or FynnLuca Muth. There we have already spoken together with several employees be it from EMS or SAHP with both characters, so you could clearly tell that it was two different people OOC does also from the voices. Also, it is so that we understand despite the rules, rule 1.4 so that it IS forbidden to have multiple ACC with IC die sound the same, as well as the same OOC person plays and not that you can not sign up for gta5grand through a rockstar launcher with only character. I can only therefore say that if that is so that we are sorry to have done so, we knew it just really so not, because we understood the rule as described above and us also many after our entry this also so affirmed , that our interpretation of this rule was so correct and that. Even people who are more familiar with the rules than we are to the day.
To the rule 1.8 I can only say so that we understand this exactly as it says there and we die yes not do since everyone plays his character himself and no one of the one or the other has the access data. Ultimately, we use all 2 to 3 PC's and change them so that everyone can always play in our household OOC times IC, and use as already said above for all the same ACC from Rockstar Launcher, which is why probably also there then now found that the multiple ACC for gta5grand there exist.
To the written so far can only say so much, yes we give us money and items. The money is for the family, which is IC/OOC the same, because we would like to buy us a new property. There contradicts itself then the statement with your rule 1.7, since it never so high sums are and/or goods die over 5 million go, but gladly can that in the future, if it one further should also differently be done that the money directly on the bank deposited and then on the family account handed over and no more direct takes place. - To the handed over articles, whereby it can concern only P1 boxes or things from the Battelpass and so. To this I say only that we collect and store IC as a family. So that not every run items must be handed over, & we then die to us THAT one of these can go into storage. In addition we increase also none by something a faster rise in its visa level. Elly Muth and Sascha Muth are already somewhat high in their visa level, nevertheless we increase no advantage from our family and/or push, because everyone must arrange its IC life around at the end of the day something to reach. Of course we use among each other the LVL 3 fishing rods or picks received from Elly Muth and Sascha Muth, but this is not pushing, because you can also acquire them freely on the island. We all just want to comfortably RP together, meet new people, escape the everyday life times and laugh can.
But it is understandable that behind each account is a different OOC person.
We are sorry if we have misunderstood rule 1.4, but now we have been informed and can understand it better and it was not our intention to violate the rule.
We are willing, if we have misunderstood the rule 1.4 and this was also related to the social club account, that my wife and my two brothers each make their own social club account and buy GTA itself. So that something like now no longer occurs.
As said we have more than enough witnesses who can testify that it is not just one player OOC who plays four accounts, but that there are four OOC people who each embody their own character IC.
We would be happy to receive a positive feedback from you regarding our case and we are also willing to have a full conversation with you. Which we already wanted to do with Dane Xozis and Vincent Xozis, but we have been redirected to you. You also need to know that all 4 of us were playing RP for the first time. If we had played on other servers before, we would have known that your server requires each account to have its own social club account and game.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to explain.
With kind regards
