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Thread: Approved - Corrupt without bio + Abusing power I327165
I was punished under GR 6.4 for not taking off the suspect’s cuffs and lettin them talk to a private attorney. But doing that would've directly gone against current state legislation—specifically the Procedure for Detention and Arrests Act (PDAA).
After checking, PDAA Section 4.8 doesn’t say anywhere that we have to uncuff someone so they can talk to a private attorney. That’s actually not in there. The reason for that rule being the way it is, is cause tons of players end up combat logging right after gettin uncuffed saying they’re “calling their lawyer”. It ruins RP for everyone and wastes time honestly.
During the arrest, the suspect kept asking for a lawyer, but didn’t really say if they meant a state one or a private one. I took it as them asking for a state attorney, so I put in a DOJ request—but didn’t hear anything back. So, under PDAA 4.9, with no reply from DOJ, I just went ahead with processing.
While we were waiting, the suspect made a sexual comment towards my character (who’s female) and said something along the lines of “I’ll put something in your mouth.” Because of that I added sexual harassment to the charges, based on the Penal Code.
Later, during processing (in Part 2), the suspect said “I call my perconel loyer.” I didn’t see that message in chat, but I did hear it over voice. I asked them to give me a name or number so I could check if the person was actually a licensed attorney and if they were in the city at that time. They didn’t provide either. PDAA only requires me to ask for a phone number anyway, which I did.
Through the whole thing:
Also, just want to say, this exact situation has actually come up before in a public DOJ announcement. I remember the current AG (when they were still DA for FIB) making a statement that backs the way I handled this.
So, I’m just asking for another chance to show I’m not out here being careless or anything. I really do care about doing things the right way, and I’m open to learning from mistakes. Thanks for reading this and for taking the time to go over everything.
I was punished under GR 6.4 for not taking off the suspect’s cuffs and lettin them talk to a private attorney. But doing that would've directly gone against current state legislation—specifically the Procedure for Detention and Arrests Act (PDAA).
After checking, PDAA Section 4.8 doesn’t say anywhere that we have to uncuff someone so they can talk to a private attorney. That’s actually not in there. The reason for that rule being the way it is, is cause tons of players end up combat logging right after gettin uncuffed saying they’re “calling their lawyer”. It ruins RP for everyone and wastes time honestly.
During the arrest, the suspect kept asking for a lawyer, but didn’t really say if they meant a state one or a private one. I took it as them asking for a state attorney, so I put in a DOJ request—but didn’t hear anything back. So, under PDAA 4.9, with no reply from DOJ, I just went ahead with processing.
While we were waiting, the suspect made a sexual comment towards my character (who’s female) and said something along the lines of “I’ll put something in your mouth.” Because of that I added sexual harassment to the charges, based on the Penal Code.
Later, during processing (in Part 2), the suspect said “I call my perconel loyer.” I didn’t see that message in chat, but I did hear it over voice. I asked them to give me a name or number so I could check if the person was actually a licensed attorney and if they were in the city at that time. They didn’t provide either. PDAA only requires me to ask for a phone number anyway, which I did.
Through the whole thing:
- I read them their rights and charges
- Took them to the lawyer room
- Tried to contact DOJ in two departments
- Waited for DOJ to reply (they didn’t)
- Showed my ID when asked
- Followed up multiple times for info about the private attorney
Also, just want to say, this exact situation has actually come up before in a public DOJ announcement. I remember the current AG (when they were still DA for FIB) making a statement that backs the way I handled this.
So, I’m just asking for another chance to show I’m not out here being careless or anything. I really do care about doing things the right way, and I’m open to learning from mistakes. Thanks for reading this and for taking the time to go over everything.
