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David Scofield
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Date of violation
Apr 17, 2023
Time of violation
11.12
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Takumii Venetia

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vAnimated was streaming at the time this happened, he is currently forum banned and asked me to provide this link which shows his voice, its from his channel, and its his pov, of what he was doing during the time of this situation and he wasnt not even paying attention to this guy or know who he is at all. The pov also does not show him shooting at anyone anywhere, and there is not enough evidence to prove he knew someone was attempting to taze him, from the pov you can see the moment he went into the drone, at that time he got tazed, which if he did it intentionally could be seen as bug abuse but you can hear his confusion as it all happened so we know this is not intentional. Here is the pov:
 

Takumii Venetia

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gbaehhi.jpg He is shooting here
There is no ID of the person shooting here. Not to mention none of watching the stream saw him shooting at anyone we all heard the shooting but that was not coming from him. Do you have pov that shows him shooting? Also, why were you immediately under an assumption that it was him if he popped up there? Were you watching the stream?
 

David Scofield

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vAnimated was streaming at the time this happened, he is currently forum banned and asked me to provide this link which shows his voice, its from his channel, and its his pov, of what he was doing during the time of this situation and he wasnt not even paying attention to this guy or know who he is at all. The pov also does not show him shooting at anyone anywhere, and there is not enough evidence to prove he knew someone was attempting to taze him, from the pov you can see the moment he went into the drone, at that time he got tazed, which if he did it intentionally could be seen as bug abuse but you can hear his confusion as it all happened so we know this is not intentional. Here is the pov:
why he has criminal clothes on him and why he is trolling us inside of the doc,im in rp there,im doing my job and he is trolling us with a criminal clothes,and when i saw him he is getting his drone and running and he shootted too many officer at that moment.and you are saying he was streaming do you mean when someone streaming he can do whatever he wants? like trolling leos with criminal clothes?he's trying to use his fame and do whatever he wants.
 

David Scofield

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There is no ID of the person shooting here. Not to mention none of watching the stream saw him shooting at anyone we all heard the shooting but that was not coming from him. Do you have pov that shows him shooting? Also, why were you immediately under an assumption that it was him if he popped up there? Were you watching the stream
they can check the logs,its just my guess
 

Takumii Venetia

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why he has criminal clothes on him and why he is trolling us inside of the doc,im in rp there,im doing my job and he is trolling us with a criminal clothes,and when i saw him he is getting his drone and running and he shootted too many officer at that moment.and you are saying he was streaming do you mean when someone streaming he can do whatever he wants? like trolling leos with criminal clothes?he's trying to use his fame and do whatever he wants.
Doesn't matter what he is doing, did you see him at any point in time where it shows his ID and him shooting at you? What do you mean he's using his fame to do what he wants? Watch the pov. This guy did not know you were there or any reason why you were there in the first place. Nobody is using their fame to do what they want lol. Dont act as if you dont troll, its roleplay, you are meant to have fun. What is he doing in the pov? He's having fun. He's not being toxic, he's not trash talking, he's not shooting anyone, he's streaming, and at the same time advertising the city since it seems to be dying at this time. I think this diabolical scheme you seem to think he has is all in your head. Logs will not show anyone shooting anyone unless one of you guys were killed by him or he was killed by you. But thats gonna be hard to prove him shooting at you when again, he just popped up there for you, and on his end with his voice completely audible, he doesnt know who you are, or the reason you are there or the reason why you tried to tase him at all.
 

Takumii Venetia

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they can check the logs,its just my guess
From the pov too you can see he already clicked the drone at the time you attempted to taze him too, so that is not his fault either as it shows in his pov he had no knowledge of you attempting to taze him whatsoever. So whatever you are so upset about, let it go. My man is streaming and enjoying the game. I dont think he thought anything of the situation but he saved pov anyway just in case. I swear this dude has crazy foresight
 

David Scofield

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Doesn't matter what he is doing, did you see him at any point in time where it shows his ID and him shooting at you? What do you mean he's using his fame to do what he wants? Watch the pov. This guy did not know you were there or any reason why you were there in the first place. Nobody is using their fame to do what they want lol. Dont act as if you dont troll, its roleplay, you are meant to have fun. What is he doing in the pov? He's having fun. He's not being toxic, he's not trash talking, he's not shooting anyone, he's streaming, and at the same time advertising the city since it seems to be dying at this time. I think this diabolical scheme you seem to think he has is all in your head. Logs will not show anyone shooting anyone unless one of you guys were killed by him or he was killed by you. But thats gonna be hard to prove him shooting at you when again, he just popped up there for you, and on his end with his voice completely audible, he doesnt know who you are, or the reason you are there or the reason why you tried to tase him at all.
i tase him because he has criminal clothes on him. im a lspd officer and i saw one more criminal at outside and i was trying to get them all to cells.we are in rp.can u do that in real life? think about it you are fib agent and you are getting criminal clothes from somewhere and going to prison and trolling officers, you ll get punishment for that in real life right? i think you should learn rp
 

David Scofield

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From the pov too you can see he already clicked the drone at the time you attempted to taze him too, so that is not his fault either as it shows in his pov he had no knowledge of you attempting to taze him whatsoever. So whatever you are so upset about, let it go. My man is streaming and enjoying the game. I dont think he thought anything of the situation but he saved pov anyway just in case. I swear this dude has crazy foresight
dude he can show us his id before he doing that? wdym let it go? how can i know he is a real criminal or not at that moment? i thought he is criminal. he should stop when i taze him and show me his id. thats all he should do
 

Mehbub Rich

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Everything will be clear tell him to provide 15 min of the bodycam... Before he was taze... At that moment i was also at doc... Its a secure place he was shooting there and the moment we go to check it he just use the drone and got away... Moreover i think without proper uniform he can't enter the doc... As an fib agent he should be in uniform to enter doc... If u think he is not doing it plz tell him to provide 15 min if the bodycam... Everything will be clear
 

Takumii Venetia

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dude he can show us his id before he doing that? wdym let it go? how can i know he is a real criminal or not at that moment? i thought he is criminal. he should stop when i taze him and show me his id. thats all he should do
You make a fair point, but it seems you are more upset for almost no reason as nobody died in this incident, there is no proof he was the one shooting you, no armor or health was lost during this incident... I'm not denying its a secure facility and rp exists heavily there, what I am saying is, he did not use the drone in an attempt to escape apprehension as you can see in his pov that I provided for him as it legit shows he did not know why you were even attempting to taze him in the first place. Not to mention, he never shot anyone. I will ask him to send more pov if he has it but I think this forum is pretty misguided only because there is no proof that it is him shooting, and the pov provided shows him just flying a drone. Granted he did launch the drone right there without the rp demand, it does not change the fact that he had no idea he was gonna be tased or possibly arrested as he was not in any rp scenario and you only attempted to initiate an rp scenario when you tased him. You may have assumed he was a criminal, but you said nothing to him before deciding it was okay to taze him. He had no weapon, and if lets just pretend, IF he was a criminal in the yard of the doc, what right do you have to tase someone for being in the yard if you dont have proof it was actually him who was shooting? Did you see him shooting? And if you did, where is the pov with his ID in the footage showing him shoot? How do you know it is him from that distance when everyone in there is wearing the same outfit? These are just my basic questions but I do think you are a little too upset over something so small considering you guys lost absolutely nothing
 

David Scofield

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You make a fair point, but it seems you are more upset for almost no reason as nobody died in this incident, there is no proof he was the one shooting you, no armor or health was lost during this incident... I'm not denying its a secure facility and rp exists heavily there, what I am saying is, he did not use the drone in an attempt to escape apprehension as you can see in his pov that I provided for him as it legit shows he did not know why you were even attempting to taze him in the first place. Not to mention, he never shot anyone. I will ask him to send more pov if he has it but I think this forum is pretty misguided only because there is no proof that it is him shooting, and the pov provided shows him just flying a drone. Granted he did launch the drone right there without the rp demand, it does not change the fact that he had no idea he was gonna be tased or possibly arrested as he was not in any rp scenario and you only attempted to initiate an rp scenario when you tased him. You may have assumed he was a criminal, but you said nothing to him before deciding it was okay to taze him. He had no weapon, and if lets just pretend, IF he was a criminal in the yard of the doc, what right do you have to tase someone for being in the yard if you dont have proof it was actually him who was shooting? Did you see him shooting? And if you did, where is the pov with his ID in the footage showing him shoot? How do you know it is him from that distance when everyone in there is wearing the same outfit? These are just my basic questions but I do think you are a little too upset over something so small considering you guys lost absolutely nothing
bro thats not only about the shooting someone.He did more and if i saw criminal outside of the his cell i can taze him for get him to his cell.and i thought he is a criminal because he has criminal clothes on him as you can see
 

Iso Marine

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I think it's clear that there wasn't any shooting, however that doesn't change the fact that he used the drone to avoid getting tazed. Given the benefit of doubt, he could not have known that he was getting tazed - however he still used the drone without any RP + he was off-duty. Probably won't be GZ 1.1, more likely FailRP/Bug Abuse/GR 6.2
 

David Scofield

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why he is inside of doc without uniform or any vest,balaclava or something about his org? he is a fib agent and he is in criminal clothes inside of the doc????? wtf? he shouldnt do that!?
 

Takumii Venetia

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I think it's clear that there wasn't any shooting, however that doesn't change the fact that he used the drone to avoid getting tazed. Given the benefit of doubt, he could not have known that he was getting tazed - however he still used the drone without any RP + he was off-duty. Probably won't be GZ 1.1, more likely FailRP/Bug Abuse/GR 6.2
Cant punish someone for not knowing that someone was gonna be coming after him in a yard where officers release prisoners into, so benefit of the doubt definitely applies when there is no rp scenario involving him and the moment he pops up, he's doing his own thing, minding his own business, and then of course, he even said it before he did it he said "hold on guys let me get back into the drone" and only then does the officer use a taser. The officer said nothing that initiated any rp before deciding to taze him. That's not the streamer's fault, nor is he guilty of fail rp or bug abuse for using a drone because he did not intentionally use it to escape being tazed. Someone that did not know what was going on can not intentionally try to escape being caught.
 

Iso Marine

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Cant punish someone for not knowing that someone was gonna be coming after him in a yard where officers release prisoners into, so benefit of the doubt definitely applies when there is no rp scenario involving him and the moment he pops up, he's doing his own thing, minding his own business, and then of course, he even said it before he did it he said "hold on guys let me get back into the drone" and only then does the officer use a taser. The officer said nothing that initiated any rp before deciding to taze him. That's not the streamer's fault, nor is he guilty of fail rp or bug abuse for using a drone because he did not intentionally use it to escape being tazed. Someone that did not know what was going on can not intentionally try to escape being caught.
True.. however when you're dressed up as a prisoner in DOC - obviously you would expect at least some sort of RP. Especially in the scenario that an officer spots him. It is unfortunate that he pulled out the drone at that exact moment.
 
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