Rejected Family Un Warn Appeal | Bob Ivanov

[Mythic]

Hello every one ..

some of our family was attacking solar panels near another family house

the people from the other fmaily was there to protect it before more than 20min to collect it ..

when ever our members they attack it with giving demands they can do that sence there is solar panel will be collected soon

We know that sollar will be collected in end and start of a new hour so the demand wich was given on 23:40 is for solar wich will be collected on 00:00

and the fight can be still running for more 5-10 min after (like 00:10)
when many people kill each other infront of solars.

the family that got attacked they reported the same situation with 3 threads not only 1

Rejected - Mass RDM | Demons Family 203090,207200,221766,130429,203556

IDs 203090,207200,221766,130429,203556 You notice there is no solar panel in this POV, they are posting POV below saying they give demands but this was different time (Admin deceit) Here is another POV showing no solar panels in the area:

gta5grand.com

Approved - RDM | 130429

Randomly got killed on family property with no demands given.

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Rejected - MASS RDM | Demons Family IDs: 207200, 221766, 130429, 203556, 203090

These people came and died 20 minutes before hand, they then came back for a solar panel That wasn't there anymore that they remembered.. since they thought it was there I guess they just thought they could run into our fam property and start shooting us... either way its rdm and probably should...

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The first one rejected by : Bob Ivanov

then the second one Bob decided to change punishment to full RDM and Fam warning !

and the reason is time diffrence and may be others didn't here demand ??

sence the first one shown the player time on 00:03 ??

ok this photo from the POV with solar and voice range and all should heard first demands before the hole fight wich happen

https://imgur.com/1hYYCrT

so I want to know as a player ?

Simple should I go before solar panel get collected with 1 min and ask the people there demand? while they are like 5 or more?

till how can I kill them in that time and there is another other people might come?

or the solar panel can be collected on 23:40? 40 in minutes??

also should I to give a demand for family all of them hear it 1by1? what about others hidden behind?

last thing wich is related for the people who report us :-

they taked POV exactly after they lose the solars for 2min after they run back
and they spam forum for same situaion more than 3 threads on 1

I tihnk there is Forum punishment for that even that the person who did that it is not his first time .

as well they didn't say any thing about solar or fight in the thread report thought we dont have any POV's ?
they report us like memebrs come from no where for no reason to kill them ! wow ! this is lie !!

I trust on your fair decisions now there is fight, all had his weapons, demands was given and solars was there ..
time for report was after solar collected with 2min wich is no thing and normaly fight can extend for 10min.

I hope from Bob see the situation again and un warn the memebrs and it will lead to unwarn the fam as well hopefully !

thanks

 

[sereseopps]

You should stay with the panel the entire time until its ready or you set a time to raid it and hold it until its able to be collected.

You can't find a panel with say 2 hours left, give demands and kill to then come back 2h later with no demands given and kill to take the panel. Its pretty simple really, demands expire. You knew what you were doing and the reality is it had nothing to do with the solar panel.

If you don't want fam warnings simply don't turn upto another familys home mass RDMing 30-40m after you fought over a solar panel simply because you believed demands lasted the entire duration of the solar panel even though you had left the area. Hopefully this clears up any confusion around the rules. The same rules apply to all.

 

[Jamie Murphy]

Demons don’t deserve this yo I hope this warning gets removed cause this family we the rats are too annoying they always break rules and can’t wait to report others. Yall are snitches, yall need to get fam immunity to not get raided otherwise your balance will go negative 150k everyday

 

[sereseopps]

your opinion on a person or persons does not define the rule set. The rules are the rules regardless of your opinion of the individuals that is against. The whole point of rules are that they are neutral. Not to pick favour with one party but to bring about a fair playing field for all. You are the one with an unofficial org not us.

Our family cant rob and do many of the things an unofficial can do, as a result players are punished individually. As you are an unofficial org you are treated much the same as a gang in a sense. You have more responsibility as an unofficial org and you are handling that responsibility poorly.

 

[James Pluxury]

From POV I can see only clear RDM, Rejected​