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Hello Lebron, I hope you're doing well and as we both know, this entire situation is frustrating for all of us. I hope you read through this, as this is our POINT OF VIEW, or OUR PERSPECTIVE of the SITUATION.
We feel discriminated against and offended from the amount of racism from Cenazeoglu and their members and the Admins involved with the situation who protected them because one of their members are a streamer. We know the leader by his ID only, because we have had previous interactions with them. They tend to always have some sort of agenda against us, they have prejudices against us, because the majority of our family are Kurds. I'm sure you might hear many things from people who say that we are "terrorists" or "racists" but it's all false. It's a prejudice that people grow up with and hear about. I personally don't hold anything against any person from any country or region or ethnicity. I also don't like conflicts. But Cenazeoglu? Some of their members are pure racists, and we have so much proof of that, members of their family calling us terrorists, racists, calling us members of terrorist organizations. All without any proof. This is a roleplay server, I don't understand what their problem is with where we come from. They held up some of our members and demanded that they say "Turks on top" in our family radio, with admins present in some situations. However nothing was done? But when we try to get their Leader which we know by his ID (sure it is metagaming, but that's the only way to get them back) admins mercy kill him and say because "he's a streamer". So what? This is a roleplay server, we don't care if he is streaming or not. They cause us so much trouble and provoke us every single time that it comes back to the conflict of "Turks and Kurds". This is absolutely unacceptable. Then you have admins who take one side and think WE are terrorists which I find disgusting. We all are here to play a game and roleplay, not to promote terrorism or racism, especially not us.
Kurdistan is not a "terrorist" organization or region, literally kurdistan and their voluntary soldiers are the ones who defeated ISIS. We aren't terrorists, it's unacceptable that your admins are saying this. Kurdistan is a region that Kurds live in but have no official country in. Turks and Kurds have a dispute on land, that's all it is. Me personally I don't give a shit about it, I don't hold anything against turks or any other person of any other ethnicity again. However, they came to us and revived AND demanded 18330 Yusf Broddy to talk in the fam radio and say "Turks on top". This isn't racism? They know we are kurds and the majority of our family are kurds, they want to provoke us and try to show that they are better, not by saying "[FAMILY NAME] on top" but rather "Turks on top", and I ask you, isn't that racist or provokative or discriminative? After that situation we get them back and get their leader to say the same exact thing, but instead with our Autonimous Region's Name, which is "Kurdistan", and we wanted to demand him to say the exact same as they did with us, which is "Kurdistan on top". There is the problem of people misunderstanding what Kurdistan is. People think it's a terrorist group or organization. It isn't. People think it's a racist group or organization. Again, it isn't. It's an Autonimous Region where people of Kurdish Ethnicity live in. This region is divided in 4 countries. Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey. None of the other countries, that I have SEEN, have had problems with Kurds when their name is mentioned, except certain people of Turkish ethnicity, due to growing up with prejudices. We don't hold anything against Turks, we see them as brothers, as we do with Syrians, Iraqis, Iranis and anyone else from other ethnicities. We have brought so many players to the server and to our family, we don't care where they come from, we are happy to invite people to our culture and family. But JUST because the leader is a streamer, they are getting protection. All the admins involved in that situation were biased. I don't know what you guys think of "Kurdistan" but I will tell you this, we are not terrorists. We are highly against it.
97035 Jalal Broddy is our family leader and was careful NOT to do anything wrong, we are trying to get unofficial status for our family. He was highly careful to not say anything wrong or do anything wrong, and not get punished in the situation. However, there comes the misunderstanding that we "Kurds" are "Terrorists" and therefore "Racists" if we tell the people of Cenazeoglu family, who the majority of the members are turks, that "Kurdistan is on top". But if they tell us "Turks on top" or demand us to say it in our family radio, it's not a problem for the admins and not seen as racism?
Now that is the whole problem with this situation and the explanation.
And I ask you this, how come there is an admin now coming to me, saying our family leader supports Racism and Terrorism, when there is no proof of him saying anything against any group or ethnicity or any proof of him supporting any terrorist organization? There comes the misunderstanding into play, where I believe Akali Pierce is holding a prejudice against "Kurdistan" and thinks that it is a group of terrorists. This is highly offending to us. We don't accept being called terrorists. Especially from a server admin who is supposed to represent the server. If there is proof of Jalal saying anything unacceptable, I ask you to please provide proof of that, to us.
I hope you look deeply into this situation, and I hope you can talk with us personally so we can all show our perspectives and our POVs of what they have done, we will create a file with all of the provoking, racism, and discrimination they have done to us. Then I hope you get an idea of the entire situation.
We are happy to apologize for any issues caused and let this go behind us if all of our members get unbanned or reduced punishments, we want to continue playing without problems in the server, we have invested so much time and effort into our family. A lot of our members got banned for "Racism" because of a misunderstanding.
Thank you Lebron,
Best Regards.
We feel discriminated against and offended from the amount of racism from Cenazeoglu and their members and the Admins involved with the situation who protected them because one of their members are a streamer. We know the leader by his ID only, because we have had previous interactions with them. They tend to always have some sort of agenda against us, they have prejudices against us, because the majority of our family are Kurds. I'm sure you might hear many things from people who say that we are "terrorists" or "racists" but it's all false. It's a prejudice that people grow up with and hear about. I personally don't hold anything against any person from any country or region or ethnicity. I also don't like conflicts. But Cenazeoglu? Some of their members are pure racists, and we have so much proof of that, members of their family calling us terrorists, racists, calling us members of terrorist organizations. All without any proof. This is a roleplay server, I don't understand what their problem is with where we come from. They held up some of our members and demanded that they say "Turks on top" in our family radio, with admins present in some situations. However nothing was done? But when we try to get their Leader which we know by his ID (sure it is metagaming, but that's the only way to get them back) admins mercy kill him and say because "he's a streamer". So what? This is a roleplay server, we don't care if he is streaming or not. They cause us so much trouble and provoke us every single time that it comes back to the conflict of "Turks and Kurds". This is absolutely unacceptable. Then you have admins who take one side and think WE are terrorists which I find disgusting. We all are here to play a game and roleplay, not to promote terrorism or racism, especially not us.
Kurdistan is not a "terrorist" organization or region, literally kurdistan and their voluntary soldiers are the ones who defeated ISIS. We aren't terrorists, it's unacceptable that your admins are saying this. Kurdistan is a region that Kurds live in but have no official country in. Turks and Kurds have a dispute on land, that's all it is. Me personally I don't give a shit about it, I don't hold anything against turks or any other person of any other ethnicity again. However, they came to us and revived AND demanded 18330 Yusf Broddy to talk in the fam radio and say "Turks on top". This isn't racism? They know we are kurds and the majority of our family are kurds, they want to provoke us and try to show that they are better, not by saying "[FAMILY NAME] on top" but rather "Turks on top", and I ask you, isn't that racist or provokative or discriminative? After that situation we get them back and get their leader to say the same exact thing, but instead with our Autonimous Region's Name, which is "Kurdistan", and we wanted to demand him to say the exact same as they did with us, which is "Kurdistan on top". There is the problem of people misunderstanding what Kurdistan is. People think it's a terrorist group or organization. It isn't. People think it's a racist group or organization. Again, it isn't. It's an Autonimous Region where people of Kurdish Ethnicity live in. This region is divided in 4 countries. Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey. None of the other countries, that I have SEEN, have had problems with Kurds when their name is mentioned, except certain people of Turkish ethnicity, due to growing up with prejudices. We don't hold anything against Turks, we see them as brothers, as we do with Syrians, Iraqis, Iranis and anyone else from other ethnicities. We have brought so many players to the server and to our family, we don't care where they come from, we are happy to invite people to our culture and family. But JUST because the leader is a streamer, they are getting protection. All the admins involved in that situation were biased. I don't know what you guys think of "Kurdistan" but I will tell you this, we are not terrorists. We are highly against it.
97035 Jalal Broddy is our family leader and was careful NOT to do anything wrong, we are trying to get unofficial status for our family. He was highly careful to not say anything wrong or do anything wrong, and not get punished in the situation. However, there comes the misunderstanding that we "Kurds" are "Terrorists" and therefore "Racists" if we tell the people of Cenazeoglu family, who the majority of the members are turks, that "Kurdistan is on top". But if they tell us "Turks on top" or demand us to say it in our family radio, it's not a problem for the admins and not seen as racism?
Now that is the whole problem with this situation and the explanation.
And I ask you this, how come there is an admin now coming to me, saying our family leader supports Racism and Terrorism, when there is no proof of him saying anything against any group or ethnicity or any proof of him supporting any terrorist organization? There comes the misunderstanding into play, where I believe Akali Pierce is holding a prejudice against "Kurdistan" and thinks that it is a group of terrorists. This is highly offending to us. We don't accept being called terrorists. Especially from a server admin who is supposed to represent the server. If there is proof of Jalal saying anything unacceptable, I ask you to please provide proof of that, to us.
I hope you look deeply into this situation, and I hope you can talk with us personally so we can all show our perspectives and our POVs of what they have done, we will create a file with all of the provoking, racism, and discrimination they have done to us. Then I hope you get an idea of the entire situation.
We are happy to apologize for any issues caused and let this go behind us if all of our members get unbanned or reduced punishments, we want to continue playing without problems in the server, we have invested so much time and effort into our family. A lot of our members got banned for "Racism" because of a misunderstanding.
Thank you Lebron,
Best Regards.
