Rejected Wrong Decision | Darsh Patel

[John Morozov]

Hello dear Adham, Magnes, and Bobby.

I posted a complaint regarding the Bloods gang constantly abusing the same location to do store robberies, and this happening for over 6 months already. The problem is that the chance of that exact location being their choice is around 5:1 if not more. And the problem is that the whole State Sphere is not happy with it. It's not fun to come to the same store each day multiple times, it's 0 RP, and the location is just easier for gangs to win.

The advantage the gangs are getting in situations should come from the powers they invested in planning and preparations, as well as their skill to adapt to the situation. However, just abusing the same location which gives you an advantage is not the correct approach in my eyes.

Same as it was with Mega Mall back in the day when it was abused to the point where you decided to block it. Now, instead of just spamming Mega Mall, they added Bloods Parking to that list, but once again, all we see every day are Hostage Situations at Bloods Parking and Mega Mall, and Store Robberies at the same "car wash" location.

In my eyes, something should be done about it. I'm not saying they should get punished or whatever, but steps should be taken by Senior Crime Curator and Bloods Curators to shift their attention from just one location to all possible locations as this would improve RP for both sides and bring more fun to the game for everyone, which should be the ultimate goal.

You can see the full thread with screenshots I attached to it as proof of this complaint.

Like I already said, and pretty much the whole state sphere of en3 will agree with me - even if no rules are being broken, it's just about having more RP and more fun instead of having this 0 RP interaction with gangs each time they want to do a hostage situation or a store robbery.

I spoke to FIB curators, Senior State, Senior Crime, and Bloods curator and they all told me that they see how it can be an issue and said gangs will be talked to in order to change things. I see that Marabunta and Ballas actually listened and they tried attacking different stores and moving locations with hostage situations, however, Bloods are still spamming only 3 locations all day every day.

Thank you for reading this complaint, I hope you will see the issue all the players are facing and that you will help us because this is nothing else other than us just asking you to help us as we are tired and bored and desperately need a change.

Best regards,
John Morozov

 

[John Morozov]

Just wanted to add one thing, the reason for the complaint is that the reviewing administrator Darsh Patel I think didn't understand the essence of the complaint. It's not about punishing someone but about having a proper discussion and working on fixing the issue. Instead, we got a reply saying we have to cooperate with other orgs and come up with a tactic to win the store.

We are already winning a lot of those store robberies, it's still boring and 0 RP to come to the same store every day!!!

 

[Shabah Verlice.]

Dear Bobby, Magnes, Adham.

Hello, so I can tell you that Ace Galante the senior crime curator; have already told them about it in the past and here is a proof of that Ace

 

[AK.Nuke]

Not off topic but John I have been in Leos recently and was in the same place where you are. The thing is Leos don’t play together. A lot of people just run around in the circle without knowing what to do. Try leading the Leos by giving them specific tasks. There are a lot of places in that store from where a good shooter can deal a lot of damage. IK its hard to coordinate with all other orgs but one HC from each org at the place of nego or while giving demands at a store robbery will solve this issue instead of all 3 from FIB. And also if you feel like the same store is getting attacked every time try putting some patrol around that area. You can easily know when a store will be attacked. Just look for those 2 hour gap. If one gang or fam attacks a store you guys can be free of store robs for 2 hrs.

The thing is to have RP in a store robbery, we have to have hostages. And its not worth for gangs to have a hostage in a store robbery for multiple reasons. First one being leos wont fear for hostage life. They just push from behind or push the roofs during Negos. We usually prefer not to do a hostage with store. + loosing like 6 people for negos and holding hostages is a huge for us, considering only one org is trying to fight against 3 or 4 orgs. When a 10-10 starts all those 6 people will be killed instantly and you all will be safe behind barricades.

There is no possibility for RP without a hostage in store, so we do hostage situations too. Mostly in Bloods parking or Mega mall or Fake Hospital. This is because we will have full control of this place. There are limited entrances to these roofs and we can put 2 or 3 at each entrance. We also tried it multiple times at abandoned house but every time leos showed No fear for hostage life and pushed the roof and back door. We dont get any barricades to defend these entrances. So we usually prefer locations where we have full control and force the leos to fear for hostage.

All gang members also want to have fun and there is a lot at risk when we do a store rob. Attacking a 24/7 is literally of no use for gangs but for event count. In addition we lose guns ammo med kits armours, and if we lose 75mins of jail and 200k fines. TBH people who have been in gangs for a long time like me dont care about that jail or fines but others leave the org if they get arrested like 2 or 3 times. So to protect our member count we have to win at any cost. Its not the same in leos. If they die they just got to PH then to HQ then take guns and get back to RP. So its a must for us to win these events. And there is no possibility for RP with out a hostage.

 

[John Morozov]

Not off topic but John I have been in Leos recently and was in the same place where you are. The thing is Leos don’t play together. A lot of people just run around in the circle without knowing what to do. Try leading the Leos by giving them specific tasks. There are a lot of places in that store from where a good shooter can deal a lot of damage. IK its hard to coordinate with all other orgs but one HC from each org at the place of nego or while giving demands at a store robbery will solve this issue instead of all 3 from FIB. And also if you feel like the same store is getting attacked every time try putting some patrol around that area. You can easily know when a store will be attacked. Just look for those 2 hour gap. If one gang or fam attacks a store you guys can be free of store robs for 2 hrs.

The thing is to have RP in a store robbery, we have to have hostages. And its not worth for gangs to have a hostage in a store robbery for multiple reasons. First one being leos wont fear for hostage life. They just push from behind or push the roofs during Negos. We usually prefer not to do a hostage with store. + loosing like 6 people for negos and holding hostages is a huge for us, considering only one org is trying to fight against 3 or 4 orgs. When a 10-10 starts all those 6 people will be killed instantly and you all will be safe behind barricades.

There is no possibility for RP without a hostage in store, so we do hostage situations too. Mostly in Bloods parking or Mega mall or Fake Hospital. This is because we will have full control of this place. There are limited entrances to these roofs and we can put 2 or 3 at each entrance. We also tried it multiple times at abandoned house but every time leos showed No fear for hostage life and pushed the roof and back door. We dont get any barricades to defend these entrances. So we usually prefer locations where we have full control and force the leos to fear for hostage.

All gang members also want to have fun and there is a lot at risk when we do a store rob. Attacking a 24/7 is literally of no use for gangs but for event count. In addition we lose guns ammo med kits armours, and if we lose 75mins of jail and 200k fines. TBH people who have been in gangs for a long time like me dont care about that jail or fines but others leave the org if they get arrested like 2 or 3 times. So to protect our member count we have to win at any cost. Its not the same in leos. If they die they just got to PH then to HQ then take guns and get back to RP. So its a must for us to win these events. And there is no possibility for RP with out a hostage.

No one seems to hear me. We don't care about winning or losing. And we are winning often enough. It's about the fact it's just boring and not fun to always attend the same store robbery. I was at that store over 500 times at this point. No. Fun. Either stop spamming it or I will continue taking it up with the administration to physically restrict it because it's just not fun.

 

[Shabah Verlice.]

No one seems to hear me. We don't care about winning or losing. And we are winning often enough. It's about the fact it's just boring and not fun to always attend the same store robbery. I was at that store over 500 times at this point. No. Fun. Either stop spamming it or I will continue taking it up with the administration to physically restrict it because it's just not fun.

Agree with john, there is multiple Gun store and Store's why only taking that one? Bloods is active you got nummber's you have the enoguh activity to do great Role-play in the server, but you guys choose to do this, with all due to respect to you guys but it seems that your playing the server for Deathmatch and not for Role-Play.


I can give a example look at Ballas, since Gaur the term, i've been doing for him his store robbery's and gun store's, and i do diffrent things, untill now we have only done this store once only, the rest is other store robbery's, loosing and winning always happens you got to enjoy it only, since i joined ballas i haven't been arresting yet, but i been catched several times, but every time i get in jail either i get a USB to get everyone out or i try to ask for a lawyer, like im telling you guys you got the requriment to do great Role-play but ur not willing to do it.


Once i had vagos, i dident care about money or anything i just played for fun, i dident even play Turf's i took a gang just to play fair and have fun, and with time people liked it and i got near 500 members in org. Once people start hearing about ur org and hear that ur doing good and a lot of activity, they will join you no matter what.

 

[AK.Nuke]

Agree with john, there is multiple Gun store and Store's why only taking that one? Bloods is active you got nummber's you have the enoguh activity to do great Role-play in the server, but you guys choose to do this, with all due to respect to you guys but it seems that your playing the server for Deathmatch and not for Role-Play.


I can give a example look at Ballas, since Gaur the term, i've been doing for him his store robbery's and gun store's, and i do diffrent things, untill now we have only done this store once only, the rest is other store robbery's, loosing and winning always happens you got to enjoy it only, since i joined ballas i haven't been arresting yet, but i been catched several times, but every time i get in jail either i get a USB to get everyone out or i try to ask for a lawyer, like im telling you guys you got the requriment to do great Role-play but ur not willing to do it.


Once i had vagos, i dident care about money or anything i just played for fun, i dident even play Turf's i took a gang just to play fair and have fun, and with time people liked it and i got near 500 members in org. Once people start hearing about ur org and hear that ur doing good and a lot of activity, they will join you no matter what.

Shaba if you feel like you can do great things you are always welcome to take Crime leadership again and create great RP for the leos.

 

[Bobby Pluxury]

Rejected

No rules prevents them from attacking the same store, find a way ICly to attack and win this store robbery.