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Vee Venetia
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Date of violation
Oct 26, 2024
Time of violation
15:04
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https://youtu.be/YinTgq8de_Q

vAnimated

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I am sitting here on the sidewalk which is public property, I am undercover and these guys walk up telling us to leave and because we refused to leave off of public property they claim they can search due to a first person being present, who they called to the situation. They use that as an excuse to put me in cuffs and proceed to arrest me? This is clearly Force RP by this state organization. There is no way they can claim public property is capitol grounds, call a first person so that they can just search who they want because he is present on a place that is not capitol grounds.
 

Rishav Raj

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Ok, it doesn’t seem you were just sitting after seeing your radio chats👀 but anyway regarding points you raised-
1) You are clearly standing on the capitol grounds with following reasoning
a) If you check the front of capital you will see that foot path is included in barricading which confirms the fact that foot path is its part
b) If we see gang HQ foot paths around their HQ is considered their HQ by that logic as well it should be considered

2) But even if we consider it not to be a part of capitol (will leave it on the reviewing admins to decide) I dont think USSS really need any RP reason to search anyone around USSS guarded person i.e, first person according to following article from civil code. Because with RP reason any leo can search.
7.2 Search of a Person for Security Reasons.

7.2.1 USSS oficers have full authority to conduct body searches of all citizens and government oficials who are in the vicinity of a USSS-guarded person or of the Capitol
(City Hall).
3) Lets say they really need an RP reason to search in that situation still there was ample reason present to search you, for example you standing with FIB agents and denying to leave when asked to in the situation where there was high risk of capitol being attacked.

4) about you getting arrested you clearly said you were off duty still was caught using org equipments and if you were on duty undercover what undercover operation you were doing at Capitol?
Thats why when searching officer found you are having state issued items off duty he detained you because that again my friend is a law break.
 
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vAnimated

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Ok
1) You are clearly standing on the capitol grounds with following reasoning
a) If you check the front of capital you will see that foot path is included in barricading which confirms the fact that foot path is its part
b) If we see gang HQ foot paths around their HQ is considered their HQ by that logic as well it should be considered

2) But even if we consider it not to be a part of capitol (will leave it on the reviewing admins to decide) I dont think USSS really need any RP reason to search anyone around USSS guarded person i.e, first person according to following article from civil code. Because with RP reason any leo can search.
7.2 Search of a Person for Security Reasons.

7.2.1 USSS oficers have full authority to conduct body searches of all citizens and government oficials who are in the vicinity of a USSS-guarded person or of the Capitol
(City Hall).
3) Lets say they really need an RP reason to search in that situation still there was ample reason present to search you, for example you standing with FIB agents and denying to leave when asked to in the situation where there was high risk of capitol being attacked.

4) about you getting arrested you clearly said you were off duty still was caught using org equipments and if you were on duty undercover what undercover operation you were doing at Capitol?
Thats why when searching officer found you are having state issued items off duty he detained you because that again my friend is a rule break.
Nobody is reading those fucking paragraphs. You guys brought a first person near me and created your own RP reason to fucking search me now you guys are bringing your asses to my forum to cry? Wait for admin decision and close your mouth.

Bringing someone near us to create your RP reason for searching is in all ways FORCE RP especially when the first person leave and you guys still search then proceed to detain!
 

Amelia Verlice

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( not off topic )

ooc insult is crazy.. anyways any area around GOV, we can search you for any reason cause you are standing in a private property. failure to leave after they asked is failure to comply and arrestable.

we have all reasons to do ANYTHING to you becuse ur standing on Private Property owned by the government organisation. same like how the area around businesses is a GZ (the pavement around it)

i believe in the POV you also threatened a government officer to "kill him" but i dont know fi it was you!
 

Rishav Raj

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Nobody is reading those fucking paragraphs. You guys brought a first person near me and created your own RP reason to fucking search me now you guys are bringing your asses to my forum to cry? Wait for admin decision and close your mouth.

Bringing someone near us to create your RP reason for searching is in all ways FORCE RP especially when the first person leave and you guys still search then proceed to detain!
Ok buddy no offence but that paragraph was for reviewing admin and first person was present already at that situation “57435“ from start
 

BiomaskGaming

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Fib thinks that entire city as their property. They enter anywhere without permission, and the result is that they are now disbanded. Lol..
 

Nik Payne

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Thread Reviewed

"This part of the sidewalk is considered part of the GOV HQ (Capitol Grounds), and the USSS has the right to search anyone on their premises in case of any suspicion for security reasons, with or without the presence of a first person."

However,

ID : 175151 will be punished for Fail RP
 
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