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Pending review Leader Rule 1.7, State Rule 1.8 | 57435

Your ID
3177
Players nickname
Vee Venetia
Suspect ID
57435
Date of violation
Nov 24, 2024
Time of violation
3:43
Proofs
https://youtu.be/X9GfGokZzuY

vAnimated

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I had just got hired into the organization, and for whatever personal issues the temporary leader has, he has informed the person who hired me to actually fire me from the organization for no actual reason. Leader claimed the at first that the hiring was closed for the organization despite not putting anywhere not inside of the internal announcements nor the public announcements that the hiring was closed. Leader then changed it and claimed that my hiring was not "approved" by himself which is not the fault of the employee, and still ordered his high commands to fire me from the organization. The following conversation is proof from my logs in the government emails following this conversation, which also shows the Leader's blatant disregard for the Labor Law






https://imgur.com/a/T58XekQ

https://imgur.com/a/fFnXSZk

https://imgur.com/a/CgooHZ4

https://imgur.com/a/rgJiJOH

This last screenshot is proof of me being in the organization

https://imgur.com/a/4m2sGPb

Here is the pov of me getting fired for no reason at all:
Fired! For No Reason???

If ALL of the hiring logs are looked at, you can see for anyone in the DOJ, they never have to ask for permission, no hands from the Governor have ever been anywhere near the DOJ when it comes to people being hired, and oh what a coincidence how he claims the hiring is closed 5 hours AFTER he invited someone then sees me join. This temporary leader is clearly biased and needs to be removed from his post.

This act clearly violates 1.8 Laws are wrote by the government and every state organization should follow them. if Government is expected to write the laws and have every organization follow them, then why too wouldn't Government itself follow it's own rules to begin with? These laws are specifically in place to prevent such incidents from happening and we have someone who knows not what he is doing come along and violate them? He did not even consult a Curator for the organization regarding the matter, bypassing that altogether firing me from the org which also violates Leader Rule 1.7 The leader of the organization has the right to dismiss employees of his organization if he has lost any confidence in them with the senior curators approval. Where is the approval?

For matters such as these nowhere does it say in the law it is the fault of the person hired if the leader does not like them then they have to be fired. The leader as mentioned in the conversation has the right to delegate roles of management to those he trusts with the process, so why do I have to be fired because he doesnt like who his people hired? Not to mention the Governor cannot just fire someone from the DOJ like that to begin simply because he does not approve of their employment with the organization and he himself while sitting in the governor seat even as someone temporary is clearly not suitable to be on the top spot if he himself thinks actions like this are okay while ignoring the laws that his org is supposed to enforce.

Proof he asked his high commands to fire me!


TO REDUCE TOXICITY I AM ALSO REQUESTING ALL OFF TOPIC COMMENTS BE PUNISHED IF ANY GET POSTED
 
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Rishav Raj

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So, This explanation is just for reviewing admin
1) Your hiring was unauthorised, The representative who hired you wasn’t given any permission to hire you and that my friend makes your hiring illegal and unauthorised
2.1.2 The Employer may delegate the authority to hire, promote, terminate or discipline Employees to
certain positions (for example: HR Managers, IA Personnel, Head/Director of a Department)
according to the Charter of their Organisation.
a) Where no such Charter exists, permission must be given by the Employer in order for a
representative of that State Organisation to take actions otherwise reserved in authority for

the Employer
Here a) A GOV does not have a charter.
b)The GOV contract which he is claiming to be GOV charter is actually a contract which is clearly written on top of that document
c)Even if we consider that contract to be charter which it shouldn’t be considered as there is no where written that SCJ have authority to hire
d)Law clearly states Employer can delegate authority according to charter but since there is no charter, that point in itself becomes null and void

2)Leader rule 1.7 in itself is invalid since that rule is there to fire someone oocly while in this case all the actions were taken ICLY for IC mistakes
3)Idk about other terms but in zoro’s term every hiring including in DOJ is authorised by Employer or Employer has been kept in loop while hiring someone.
4)If vee doesnt know third party evidence cannot be considered while last screenshot i.e, proof of me ordering his fire is not his screenshot and so it should be considered invalid

5) In this link its can clearly be seen that hiring has bene closed not 5 hrs earlier but way before.

6)Article 4.1.1 of the Code of Labour and Employment Law gives leaders the discretion to manage their organization, including overseeing hiring and dismissals. The leader’s claim that the hiring was not "approved" falls within the purview of this discretionary authority. Miscommunication or failure to document the closure of hiring does not invalidate the leader’s authority to dismiss improperly hired personnel.

 

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So, This explanation is just for reviewing admin
1) Your hiring was unauthorised, The representative who hired you wasn’t given any permission to hire you and that my friend makes your hiring illegal and unauthorised
2.1.2 The Employer may delegate the authority to hire, promote, terminate or discipline Employees to
certain positions (for example: HR Managers, IA Personnel, Head/Director of a Department)
according to the Charter of their Organisation.
a) Where no such Charter exists, permission must be given by the Employer in order for a
representative of that State Organisation to take actions otherwise reserved in authority for

the Employer
Here a) A GOV does not have a charter.
b)The GOV contract which he is claiming to be GOV charter is actually a contract which is clearly written on top of that document
c)Even if we consider that contract to be charter which it shouldn’t be considered as there is no where written that SCJ have authority to hire
d)Law clearly states Employer can delegate authority according to charter but since there is no charter, that point in itself becomes null and void

2)Leader rule 1.7 in itself is invalid since that rule is there to fire someone oocly while in this case all the actions were taken ICLY for IC mistakes
3)Idk about other terms but in zoro’s term every hiring including in DOJ is authorised by Employer or Employer has been kept in loop while hiring someone.
4)If vee doesnt know third party evidence cannot be considered while last screenshot i.e, proof of me ordering his fire is not his screenshot and so it should be considered invalid

5) In this link its can clearly be seen that hiring has bene closed not 5 hrs earlier but way before.

6)Article 4.1.1 of the Code of Labour and Employment Law gives leaders the discretion to manage their organization, including overseeing hiring and dismissals. The leader’s claim that the hiring was not "approved" falls within the purview of this discretionary authority. Miscommunication or failure to document the closure of hiring does not invalidate the leader’s authority to dismiss improperly hired personnel.

We already discussed it in DMs let the admin decide. I already got proof before hand you couldn’t just fire to begin with as long as they are in the organization you need a valid reason for firing and as clearly stated no Charter was violated, Labor Law was not violated, and no crimes were committed to warrant my dismissal. So yes you are wrong on this one even more so because you claim that all healing was closed on 11/16/2024 but if you check the hiring logs it shows you hiring people 9 hours before I joined and I just joined only 2 hours ago. Good try buddy! Let the reviewing admin decide now thanks!
 

Rishav Raj

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We already discussed it in DMs let the admin decide. I already got proof before hand you couldn’t just fire to begin with as long as they are in the organization you need a valid reason for firing and as clearly stated no Charter was violated, Labor Law was not violated, and no crimes were committed to warrant my dismissal. So yes you are wrong on this one even more so because you claim that all healing was closed on 11/16/2024 but if you check the hiring logs it shows you hiring people 9 hours before I joined and I just joined only 2 hours ago. Good try buddy! Let the reviewing admin decide now thanks!
As stated earlier that comment was for reviewing admin
I closed hiring but still I have authority to approve and disapprove hiring?
+The candidates who were hired were the once who already filled application and was awaiting interviews.
Others did asked for permission from me/deputies before hiring others while the representative who hired you didn’t so buddy as a leader I have full authority to terminate any personal who is being hired illegally.
It’s like you found a key to someone’s house, you went inside now you are claiming ownership.
Even If i am a temp leader, I have all the rights a Governor has to take actions incase of violation.
 
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