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Your ID
16311
Players nickname
Mafia Paul
Suspect ID
0000
Date of violation
May 20, 2025
Time of violation
15:00
Proofs
https://youtu.be/Fd5R1xYczXs?si=jdzWdmgt2WhofBWB

Mafia Paul

To Much Trust Is......
Player
Joined
May 20, 2022
Messages
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Dear Grand RP Administration,


I hope you are doing well. I would like to bring a recent incident to your attention regarding the handling of a hostage situation during a store robbery, as well as a possible rule violation that occurred during the scenario.


1. LEO Roleplay and Hostage Priority
As shown clearly in my bodycam footage, during the hostage situation, there was a noticeable lack of concern from the Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs) for the safety and life of the hostage. According to proper roleplay standards and Grand RP's rules, the first priority in a hostage situation should always be to protect the hostage and engage in negotiation—not to immediately rush in with the intent of arresting suspects. This approach completely bypasses the negotiation phase and puts the hostage’s life at unnecessary risk.


When I first started playing on Grand RP EN2, I was impressed by the high standard of roleplay, especially from LEOs. Situations like these were handled seriously, with proper attention to negotiations and roleplay. However, it seems that recently, the standard has been slipping. The current behavior of some LEOs reflects a shift in priority—from saving hostages to simply arresting suspects. This undermines the quality and purpose of serious RP.


In this case, it was very clear that the FIB officer involved had no intention of negotiating, which is not in line with Grand RP's values or proper roleplay etiquette.


2. General Rule 6.2 Violation
Additionally, as visible in my bodycam, one of the hostages left the game during the situation in what appears to be an attempt to avoid roleplay consequences. This action directly violates General Rule 6.2, which prohibits leaving the game to avoid RP scenarios or outcomes. I kindly ask that this aspect also be reviewed and appropriate action be taken.




Request for Review:
I respectfully request that the administration and curators:
  • Review my bodycam footage of the situation.
  • Reiterate to all LEO factions the correct procedures and priorities in hostage situations, emphasizing negotiation and hostage safety as the top priority.
  • Investigate the potential General Rule 6.2 violation by the player who disconnected during the scene.
 

Stefano Castillo

Valkyrie
Senior Administrator
Joined
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Messages
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ID 73712 will receive a punishment for GR 6.2
Regarding the Gen 6.2 you are reporting on the hostage, I don't see the second hostage anywhere so either provide the timestamp and ID of him doing Gen 6.2 or let someone who saw him doing it report it. Now regarding them sneakily taking your gang members as detainees when they are alone, that is fine. Now to the part of negotiations, at first they looked cooperative and even the negotiator complied with you by telling his LEOs to back off but then you told them that one of your hostages did CL and still gave them 2 demands and even at the start of your POV, you told your gang members that you are gonna request free passage and a helicopter with the 2 hostages that you had, now that one of them did CL you still continued with the same 2 demands for 1 hostage and kept asking for free passage with the heli and whenever they tried to correct your mistake of giving 2 demands for 1 hostage, you started to shout, talk over them and provoke them in which I don't understand the point that you made about the LEO's attitude and then they gave you the free passage and demanded you to let go of the hostage as they complied with the first demand, now you still kept requesting that heli for the same hostage in which in the end they still gave it to you anyway. Moreover, at 10:42, you told them you needed free passage with a big heli and then at 15:53 you told your boys to get in cars so that they can leave with the free passage and you even told your gang members you were going to request that free passage when you saw that you had 1 hostage at 10:05 so you knew exactly what you were trying to do here and then at 19:30 they told you that they let go of your gang members as you demanded the free passage and now you are saying you didn't request the free passage and requested the big heli instead?!?! Then at 20:20, he asked you how many hostages you had and you lied to him and tried to manipulate him into thinking that you had 2 hostages and it was already done and that now you are just waiting for the annihilator and so you wanted to hold the hostage this whole time trying to make the LEOs understand you were only demanding the heli after your boys escape with the cars without even getting touched by LEOs as you made them think that you were demanding a free passage which is 2 demands for the price of one hostage. This thread won't be locked for Ballas curators as Ballas is already disbanded.
 
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