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Players nickname
Eddie Prada
Suspect ID
000 FIB
Date of violation
Dec 10, 2021
Time of violation
15:09
Proofs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuk9Wtxp7ww&ab_channel=F

Eduardinho Focacciaso

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This store robbery was full with FearRP, failRP, PG and so on. Because of the ''Not caring about the hostage'' the situation was stalled for so long with demands like, ''løets have a duel'' what lead to us not making it in time for turfs, handing the whole season over without a chance. Secondly when we were taking hostages around NG, two of theyre HCs combat logged.
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Osama Ponch

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This store robbery was full with FearRP, failRP, PG and so on. Because of the ''Not caring about the hostage'' the situation was stalled for so long with demands like, ''løets have a duel'' what lead to us not making it in time for turfs, handing the whole season over without a chance. Secondly when we were taking hostages around NG, two of theyre HCs combat logged.
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ADMINS: "Lets give them second term"
 

Osama Ponch

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ADMINS: "Lets give them second term"

They cant event put casefile together
 

David Pluxury

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Reviewing...
Any offtopic comments will result in forum account ban!​
 

ChillinYo

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Oh lord, here we go. Bloods down tremendously.

1) **We missed turf**
That's your own problem. Don't rob the same gun store everyday with the same hostage. If you knew you had turfs to do then wait until they are over then rob a store.

2) **Lets have a duel**
This was a joke within RP. I don't know why you take it to heart.

3) **Shooting while hands up**
You was literally shooting at us, prior to running into the gun store and putting your hands up, apon that you took 2 hostages. You had MANY chances to surrender. However, you chose to shoot. We have the right to shoot back and kill you.

4) **You didn't value the hostages life**
I did value it multiple times. Regardless of my remark that he is a known criminal, gang member who happened to be shooting at DOC officers yesterday with 3 others. Yet I offered you 25,000 for him and you chose free passage.

Summary:
We are sick of them robbing the same store, daily with the same hostage. They metagame the rules of how much we can pay for a hostage yet go on a rant on the forums. From what I see FIB are clear in this situation, we did nothing wrong and this report is just petty (against FIB).
 

Eduardinho Focacciaso

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Oh lord, here we go. Bloods down tremendously.

1) **We missed turf**
That's your own problem. Don't rob the same gun store everyday with the same hostage. If you knew you had turfs to do then wait until they are over then rob a store.

2) **Lets have a duel**
This was a joke within RP. I don't know why you take it to heart.

3) **Shooting while hands up**
You was literally shooting at us, prior to running into the gun store and putting your hands up, apon that you took 2 hostages. You had MANY chances to surrender. However, you chose to shoot. We have the right to shoot back and kill you.

4) **You didn't value the hostages life**
I did value it multiple times. Regardless of my remark that he is a known criminal, gang member who happened to be shooting at DOC officers yesterday with 3 others. Yet I offered you 25,000 for him and you chose free passage.

Summary:
We are sick of them robbing the same store, daily with the same hostage. They metagame the rules of how much we can pay for a hostage yet go on a rant on the forums. From what I see FIB are clear in this situation, we did nothing wrong and this report is just petty (against FIB).
1. We had nearly one hour for it, yet you still managed to stall it because of the weird ass rp on your side.
2. You seemed pretty serious about that, and not something a cop would joke about IRL when someone is holding a hostage…
3. There was no reason at all to shooting him in thw store when he was separated, had hands up, and being no threat to you at all.
4. You mentioned several times things like “criminal scumbag” instead of hostage and at the end you concluded that you wouldn’t give a penny for him.
Summary: We have robbed this store twice, no need to be annoyed, of a store robbery where we actually have two hostages with room for negotiations, and should be a fun RP situation but guess not.
 

Acheron

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While I wasn't seen in the videos above, I was involved (ID:3049) in both the store robbery and the NG raid.
With that being said, I would like to clarify a few points that I noticed from these videos.

1. In the second video you were shot by an agent that is not FIB. While I'm not justifying these actions, prior to the store robbery you raided, killed, and kidnapped National Guards at their base, so from the perspective of the law enforcement, it's justifiable to shoot to kill or handicap the suspect due to their previous actions that were conducted not too long ago.

2. In the third video; clearly shows that the person that punched the SAHP officer (again not FIB), had ulterior motives i.e. baiting the person into doing these exact actions, and you hear him laughing and unmuting discord.

3. In the fourth video; You can hear him saying that he has to value his life, regardless since he's a hostage. Further on in the video, he points out the criminal activities that the hostage you have had committed, and he was offering 25k as a reasonable price. He was pointing out that the price you asked for that said member of society is too high for the damages that he had caused, and as you can hear from the video he's saying he has to value his life regardless of all of the atrocities that the person has committed. But the price you were asking for was not reasonable.

4. I can not comment on the combat log in the last video, as we still need to see if the other guy's game crashed. But this last video supports the claim in the second video when one of the gang members was shot since they were identified as hostile due to the actions that took place prior to the store robbery.

Overall, I personally don't see any wrongs that the FIB agents have committed in this video both ICly and OOCly, that justifies a punishment.



Response one:"You seemed pretty serious about that, and not something a cop would joke about IRL when someone is holding a hostage…"
That is actually not true, you would be surprised. If you would like to learn more, feel free to DM and I could supply you with all the sources that point towards cops and how they value someone's life based on their background.
 

Rebel Smith

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Upon reviewing the evidence, I cannot conclude this report at this time.​
  • Requesting POV of CL of ID 2172 & ID 1145​
  • They have 5 hours to respond.​
  • Any other offtopic or toxicity below this message will lead to forum ban.
 

Yip Man

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as you can see from my version of pov, i saw the man running inside the store, by the time i got in he was just standing there and i could not hear anything. i can only hear the background music and maybe he was trying to tell me not to shoot or want to surrender but i cant hear anything at all. i also cant see that he has put his hands up, so i just proceed to shoot him until he was unconscious.

 

Eduardinho Focacciaso

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as you can see from my version of pov, i saw the man running inside the store, by the time i got in he was just standing there and i could not hear anything. i can only hear the background music and maybe he was trying to tell me not to shoot or want to surrender but i cant hear anything at all. i also cant see that he has put his hands up, so i just proceed to shoot him until he was unconscious.

He doesnt need to tell you anything, him purring his hands in the sir indicates very clearly that hes surrendering, not only that but you have more than enough time to stop shooting, you literally had to reload and then started shooting again.
 

David Pluxury

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After reviewing the evidence, i have decided to give SAHP a verbal warning for PG (3rd POV)
Rebel smith will take care of FIB and NG !
 

Rebel Smith

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Upon reviewing the evidence, I have decided to Accept this report​
  • FIB will get warning for not valuing hostage life.​
  • NG will get warning as Leader and Deputy did Combat log.

    If you feel the punishment the administrator issued is incorrect, feel free to file an Admin Complaint
 
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