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87542
Players nickname
Morgan Pirazev
Suspect ID
0000
Date of violation
Feb 26, 2023
Time of violation
00:00
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https://gta5grand.com/forum/threads/328282

Morgan Pirazev

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Wednesday , February 22, 2023 : I submitted application for joining EMS , as you know in EMS email written : MINIMUM requirements: - IRL age 16 - 7 Years in the city - No criminal record (Please get it cleared before applying if you have prison terms) - Good level of English both written and verbal - No face or gang related tattoo allowed.
So i changed my name and i removed the face tattoo i had. I spoke with Ron Abruzzi | 80255 and i asked him if he checked my application , but he broke the rules and he got punishment for that (Mixing) : Approved - Mixing | 80255 . As you can see in that thread all the EMS HC defended for him while he is guilty just because their friend.
I waited for 3 days doing nothing , avoiding criminal stuffs , being clean , just waiting without salary ... and still didn't get answer , so i went today to hospital and ask for the result , but i didn't find HC there, so they send me to Sandy shores hospital to talk with Mickey Stranger | 87215 , he said it should be on email a list of submitted applications , but i told him i already checked and there is nothing there , he said that he doesn't know and should ask the Chief or his Deputy :
. I went back to the other hospital and i asked for meeting with the chief , they informed her , but she told them let him DM in discord. I did , but never got answer: . I tried to talk with the deputy and here is what she said: .
My application got rejected without any reason (IC) , but just because i reported one of the ems employee on the forums and EMS got verbal warning (OOC) , i consider this is mixing when you use OOC reason in IC. And this is POV showing how they accepted an application from a guy who doesn't know the rules, and he failed in the interview because of that :
After a while i found him again waiting in the lobby and asked him what he is doing here after being rejected in the interview . They gave him another chance :
Being a Chief that doesn't mean you own the hospital and you decide who join and who doesn't, until you give a good reason. So please admins , make sure to take the right decision by letting them create a list that shows accepted and rejected application, give good reasons and don't use OOC reasons in case of rejection.
 
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Iso Marine

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So.. what's the rule break here? You put "Mass Rule Break" but there literally isn't any. Could you name 1 for me? You're making a forum just because they rejected your application.

1. Any type of org applications are OOC ( you apply for them on discord ), thus obviously they will consider OOC reasons + IC reasons to hire you. Adding on that you had a history of reporting them, resulting in them receiving a verbal (mentioned by you.) so why would they accept you?

2. ID 49202 was probably given a chance to go and read up on the rules again and come back later, what's wrong with that?

3. "Being a Chief that doesn't mean you own the hospital and you decide who join and who doesn't, until you give a good reason."
The Leader is not obliged to share with you why you were rejected or not, just move on and apply next time. Why make such a big thing "Mass Rule Break | EMS", where there's literally 0 rule breaks from EMS.

4. In the first evidence where you speak to the Mickey Stranger, you were very aggressive and undermining - threatening him if he doesn't do what you say, you will post a forum - provoking? (GR 6.12). On top of that, in the screenshot conversation you had with the Chief and the deputy, you mentioned "I was talking to Mickey but he had a problem with his mic", this statement shows that you were talking to him ICly + evidence video no.1 also shows that as well - thus you brought an IC situation, OOC (GR 6.10).

5. The date of the complaint is wrong, like cmon bro.
 
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The Mafia

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Wednesday , February 22, 2023 : I submitted application for joining EMS , as you know in EMS email written : MINIMUM requirements: - IRL age 16 - 7 Years in the city - No criminal record (Please get it cleared before applying if you have prison terms) - Good level of English both written and verbal - No face or gang related tattoo allowed.
So i changed my name and i removed the face tattoo i had. I spoke with Ron Abruzzi | 80255 and i asked him if he checked my application , but he broke the rules and he got punishment for that (Mixing) : Approved - Mixing | 80255 . As you can see in that thread all the EMS HC defended for him while he is guilty just because their friend.
I waited for 3 days doing nothing , avoiding criminal stuffs , being clean , just waiting without salary ... and still didn't get answer , so i went today to hospital and ask for the result , but i didn't find HC there, so they send me to Sandy shores hospital to talk with Mickey Stranger | 87215 , he said it should be on email a list of submitted applications , but i told him i already checked and there is nothing there , he said that he doesn't know and should ask the Chief or his Deputy :
. I went back to the other hospital and i asked for meeting with the chief , they informed her , but she told them let him DM in discord. I did , but never got answer: . I tried to talk with the deputy and here is what she said: .
My application got rejected without any reason (IC) , but just because i reported one of the ems employee on the forums and EMS got verbal warning (OOC) , i consider this is mixing when you use OOC reason in IC. And this is POV showing how they accepted an application from a guy who doesn't know the rules, and he failed in the interview because of that :
After a while i found him again waiting in the lobby and asked him what he is doing here after being rejected in the interview . They gave him another chance :
Being a Chief that doesn't mean you own the hospital and you decide who join and who doesn't, until you give a good reason. So please admins , make sure to take the right decision by letting them create a list that shows accepted and rejected application, give good reasons and don't use OOC reasons in case of rejection.
Bruh really!!?? Where are the rule breaks
 

Morgan Pirazev

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So.. what's the rule break here? You put "Mass Rule Break" but there literally isn't any. Could you name 1 for me? You're making a forum just because they rejected your application.

1. Any type of org applications are OOC ( you apply for them on discord ), thus obviously they will consider OOC reasons + IC reasons to hire you. Adding on that you had a history of reporting them, resulting in them receiving a verbal (mentioned by you.) so why would they accept you?

2. ID 49202 was probably given a chance to go and read up on the rules again and come back later, what's wrong with that?

3. "Being a Chief that doesn't mean you own the hospital and you decide who join and who doesn't, until you give a good reason."
The Leader is not obliged to share with you why you were rejected or not, just move on and apply next time. Why make such a big thing "Mass Rule Break | EMS", where there's literally 0 rule breaks from EMS.

4. In the first evidence where you speak to the Mickey Stranger, you were very aggressive and undermining - threatening him if he doesn't do what you say, you will post a forum - provoking? (GR 6.12). On top of that, in the screenshot conversation you had with the Chief and the deputy, you mentioned "I was talking to Mickey but he had a problem with his mic", this statement shows that you were talking to him ICly + evidence video no.1 also shows that as well - thus you brought an IC situation, OOC (GR 6.10).

5. The date of the complaint is wrong, like cmon bro.
I put Mass rule break because u cant put Mixing | EMS , So you was an admin and you telling me they have the right because i reported one of them ? so why we report brother ? everybody will not report anymore if that will affect ICly.
Its true u apply in discord OOC as its called 'email' IC but they don't have the right to consider the OOC reasons , for example if i don't like you IRL that means i have a reason to kill you in the city ?.

2-im not telling that's a problem when they give to someone second chance , but if you wanna do that , do it the same way to all people (except IC reasons)

3-actually , yeah , i need to know why my application got rejected (especially when there is no valuable reason), IRL , any org they will tell you a reason , for example : you dont have enough experience , you dont talk this language ... you should know that RP its more than a game and rules ( the rules that made to get RP closer to IRL).

4-Yes i was Serious and not 'agressive' because they just keep pretending there is no result and everyone doesn't know ( because no one can tell the truth about that reason ).
I didn't Provoke him IC , as you can see i typed in non-rp chat , and thats not provoking , i just didnt want to make this situation bigger and bigger , i thought maybe he will understand.
-I didn't brought an IC situation to OOC , cause if you read again you will see that SHE asked to DM her in 'email' because she refused to have meeting with me in the hospital when i asked for , which idk why .

5-I can't put an exactly date because there is no specific day , its 3 days since that started .
 

Ani Pluxury

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There is no mass rule break from EMS, If you want to know why you didn't got accepted then talk to the leader directly ICly
 
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