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Your ID
70880
Players nickname
Matt Winter
Suspect ID
0000
Date of violation
Mar 25, 2022
Time of violation
22:08
Proofs
https://youtu.be/Gpy9Lc4ZJrE

Matt Sirius

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It needs to be clear to all legal orgs. They are constantly shooting when hostage is unsafe.
 

Shane Muga

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It needs to be clear to all legal orgs. They are constantly shooting when hostage is unsafe.
Hello, I see that some of my agents have upset you at a robbery. At FIB we try our best to uphold certain professionalism but we are still within the beginning stages of the organization. Although I personally don't see anything wrong with this clip. The hostage did not have any guns aimed at him nor was he shot at once. It is YOU who delayed after being given the money to let the hostage go.
 

Frederick Rogues

Supreme Court Justice - Former SAHP and EMS Leader
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As SAHP were in attendance here's a POV from our end, probably over cautious but still.

Not providing any comment on the overall situation.

Nobody from SAHP will respond again in this thread unless asked to by an administrator.
 

Jay Catier

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The hostage was safe didnt get shot 1 time as you can see in the pov provided by SAHP the hostage was during sleep and didnt respond to RP when asked to show his passport. This really affected my RP experience i personally think that when looking for a hostage you should choose a player with more experience in the server. Also would like to add that after you received the money you held the hostage for around 10 seconds to try gain free passage.
 

Matt Sirius

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The hostage was safe didnt get shot 1 time as you can see in the pov provided by SAHP the hostage was during sleep and didnt respond to RP when asked to show his passport. This really affected my RP experience i personally think that when looking for a hostage you should choose a player with more experience in the server. Also would like to add that after you received the money you held the hostage for around 10 seconds to try gain free passage.
So your saying the hostage is safe when there are hundreds of bullets flying past his face? SAHP knew what they had to do. Even FIB said, for the hostage to be safe they must be in the vehicle. The hostage had a language barrier and not once did you communicate with the hostage before hand telling them what to do.
 

Matt Sirius

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The hostage was safe didnt get shot 1 time as you can see in the pov provided by SAHP the hostage was during sleep and didnt respond to RP when asked to show his passport. This really affected my RP experience i personally think that when looking for a hostage you should choose a player with more experience in the server. Also would like to add that after you received the money you held the hostage for around 10 seconds to try gain free passage.
free passage is barricades removed and give us time to leave. we all left at the same time. Also wanna put it out there, FIB did not care for hostages fingers. Insulting me 3 times, the hostages finger was cut. He then also didn't care and insulted me further more and when another finger was cut there was no emotion/reaction to that nor change in his words/insult.
 

Matt Sirius

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Hello, I see that some of my agents have upset you at a robbery. At FIB we try our best to uphold certain professionalism but we are still within the beginning stages of the organization. Although I personally don't see anything wrong with this clip. The hostage did not have any guns aimed at him nor was he shot at once. It is YOU who delayed after being given the money to let the hostage go.
5-6 seconds isn't that long. Also don't you think it is RP to go to my car immediately bearing in mind I'm carrying 100k cash? Tell me the rule I broke for holding the hostage for 5-6 seconds?
 

Shane Muga

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5-6 seconds isn't that long. Also don't you think it is RP to go to my car immediately bearing in mind I'm carrying 100k cash? Tell me the rule I broke for holding the hostage for 5-6 seconds?
its just stalling to get time for yourself to get in a car
 

Jason Rowe

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To be fair the hostage was totally safe not a single gun was pointed at him anymore and you were all in vehicles
 

Chicky Nuggies

My name is Chicky :)
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Hello, I see that some of my agents have upset you at a robbery. At FIB we try our best to uphold certain professionalism but we are still within the beginning stages of the organization. Although I personally don't see anything wrong with this clip. The hostage did not have any guns aimed at him nor was he shot at once. It is YOU who delayed after being given the money to let the hostage go.
The hostage was literally in the center of gunfire. If you're a high ranking FIB you are a moron and should be disbanded
 

CashYip

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The hostage was literally in the center of gunfire. If you're a high ranking FIB you are a moron and should be disbanded
At the end of the day the hostage was secured and in the POV no shots were going directly toward the hostage and as you can see ID 8283 went from another direction to open fire toward the suspects NOT THE HOSTAGE. One more thing please don't be disrespectful you bum.
 

Nick Rune

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Hostage is considered safe when there are no guns pointed on hostage. After that point onwards demands do not hold leverage and we can shoot. In this sitution, person who was holding hostage stopped pointing gun and ran back to car. Negotiator ensured hostage has no guns pointed and then shot you.
 

Unknown killah

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Hostage is considered safe when there are no guns pointed on hostage. After that point onwards demands do not hold leverage and we can shoot. In this sitution, person who was holding hostage stopped pointing gun and ran back to car. Negotiator ensured hostage has no guns pointed and then shot you.
- Current Eng 2 FIB Leader
 

Matt Sirius

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Hostage is considered safe when there are no guns pointed on hostage. After that point onwards demands do not hold leverage and we can shoot. In this sitution, person who was holding hostage stopped pointing gun and ran back to car. Negotiator ensured hostage has no guns pointed and then shot you.
Even the FIB employee stated that the hostage is safe once in the car. SAHP knew what they were doing, why didn’t you? To keep it RP, just because you don’t see guns at the hostage, they still need to be in the car to ensure they are safe.
 

Nick Rune

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It was said to gain fair adavantage in situation. Using mistake of opposite party to gain advantage is part of RP aswell thats what opens opportunities to approach situations differently, well limited to certain extent just like you grab alone officer as hostage from situation if robbery is outside city limits or inside ghetto. I believe safety of hostage depends on threat to his life like gun pointed on him and not u sitting in car n saying he is not safe.
 
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Monty McKnight

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Oct 16, 2021
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no guns on the hostage, the person holding the hostage takes way too long to release him and in an irl situation would have been surrounded by the officers and taken into custody you need to have more than one guy present with the hostage. He is also walking round all over cars whilst having the hostage, very unrealistic behaviour. The shots open fire and the guy that calls it is in front of the hostage there is no vagos in the immediate area to cause harm to the hostage you are all in cars driving away therefor posing no threat. You are posting a forum because you are upset because the leos outsmarted you and you wanna cry to someone about it, there is no rule break here apart from your guy swinging a hostage around on his own like hes a ballon (unrealistic behaviour)

have a good day 😚
 
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