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78123
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Finley Hawk
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Floki Vilgeroarson
Date
Apr 17, 2022
Time
11:00
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https://gta5grand.com/forum/threads/84345/

Finley

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First of all In Every store Robberies or any situation if the hostage gets shot the orgs get a warning , in this situation he didn't even do Fear rp ( I agree he got demorganed for fear Rp ) , LSPD started shooting while we had 2 PD officers and we got warning for that .

From LSPD that guy gets punishment for fearp and we get a org strike I dont know how this is a fair judgement .

In that situation we were getting shots but there was a time at this time stamp where no gun shots was going on and at that moment we made him the hostage and then they start unloading the lmgs.
 

Anvy

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1. I HAVE A DOUBT CAN LEGAL ORG'S SHOOT WHEN 3 GUNS ARE POINTED AT THE HOSTAGE

2. LSPD STARTED SHOOTING WHEN GUNS WERE POINTED AT THE OFFICERS, WE LITERALLY HAD 2 PD OFFICERS

3. LSPD DONT GET A STRIKE FOR THIS ( THAT GUY GETS DEMORGANED FOR FEAR RP , AND WE GET ORG WARNING FOR POWERGAMING , THAT GUY STALLED AND WAITED UNTILL BACK UP COMES )

4. I DONT SEE VAGOS DOING A MASSIVE RULE BREAK THAT DESEVERS A STRIKE & HOW LSPD IS NOT DESERVING A STRIKE
 

Floki Vilgeroarson

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First of all In Every store Robberies or any situation if the hostage gets shot the orgs get a warning , in this situation he didn't even do Fear rp ( I agree he got demorganed for fear Rp ) , LSPD started shooting while we had 2 PD officers and we got warning for that .

From LSPD that guy gets punishment for fearp and we get a org strike I dont know how this is a fair judgement .

In that situation we were getting shots but there was a time at this time stamp where no gun shots was going on and at that moment we made him the hostage and then they start unloading the lmgs.
So first of all they started shooting before you took him hostage and then when you saw that you were getting shot you chose to take him hostage while they were shooting and not only that 1 of the officers was dead and your gang members were also shooting and due to that they had an rp reason to shoot and the officer who broke the rules he was punished and it was only 1 officer that shot you guys
 

Master Jackfruit

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So first of all they started shooting before you took him hostage and then when you saw that you were getting shot you chose to take him hostage while they were shooting and not only that 1 of the officers was dead and your gang members were also shooting and due to that they had an rp reason to shoot and the officer who broke the rules he was punished and it was only 1 officer that shot you This is just a simple situation,which turned into a chaos,With all due respect I request you guys to kindly look into this as from our side it was a unfair decision. As the thread conclusion state that “As for fearing for hostage life you were being shot at when you took the hostage and your gang members were shooting too and due to that your org will receive a warning after discussing with curator”
Our point of view is if we are pointing guns at someone can anyone starts shooting out of nowhere?
And if so finley only got one shot before taking hostage which he was unaware off.But the main question is can anyone interfere by shooting in a situation where 3 guns were already pointed at someone?
 

Finley

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So first of all they started shooting before you took him hostage and then when you saw that you were getting shot you chose to take him hostage while they were shooting and not only that 1 of the officers was dead and your gang members were also shooting and due to that they had an rp reason to shoot and the officer who broke the rules he was punished and it was only 1 officer that shot you guys
I already told in my previous message , we started getting shots but then there was no shots from both side for 30secs and at that moment we made him the hostage. and as you are saying it was only 1 officer who shot us then I think it wont count for us also as only one guy from our side shot at them in action but then he stopped it but those guys didnt
 

Floki Vilgeroarson

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I already told in my previous message , we started getting shots but then there was no shots from both side for 30secs and at that moment we made him the hostage. and as you are saying it was only 1 officer who shot us then I think it wont count for us also as only one guy from our side shot at them in action but then he stopped it but those guys didnt
You guys were robbing an officer with another officer next to him dead on the floor and then reviving him to also rob him which is more than enough RP reason for an officer to shoot you guys, and you decided to take him as a hostage when he started shooting at you guys basically trying to force a rulebreak on the other side but the only person who broke the rules was you and then your gang members started shooting back at him also another reason for him to shoot back
 

Finley

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You guys were robbing an officer with another officer next to him dead on the floor and then reviving him to also rob him which is more than enough RP reason for an officer to shoot you guys, and you decided to take him as a hostage when he started shooting at you guys basically trying to force a rulebreak on the other side but the only person who broke the rules was you and then your gang members started shooting back at him also another reason for him to shoot back
We partially killed him because he wasnt comply we told him we will shoot in 5 secs but still he didnt did anything and because of that he died , As I told you we made him hostage in the time stamp where shooting wasnt going , plus point you should note that you are wrong in saying that only one officer shot us you can see in the pov shots were coming from both sides and how can you confirm that my gang members were shooting when I can see in my pov only guy was shooting in action but then he stopped .

So I think you are partially right and partially wrong and I dont think if you say only one guy from pd started shooting and because of that they dont deserve strike then why us ?

So as per the sentences you are saying I can understand that we should not fight we should die then get arrested for their faults? and another thing the guy who started using his/her lmg was a high ranking official which is near Deputy and that means he is the most important part of PD .


Else its your decision I cant do anything but from next time while reviewing bodycams turn the volume up and listen and see carefully....
 

Anvy

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You guys were robbing an officer with another officer next to him dead on the floor and then reviving him to also rob him which is more than enough RP reason for an officer to shoot you guys, and you decided to take him as a hostage when he started shooting at you guys basically trying to force a rulebreak on the other side but the only person who broke the rules was you and then your gang members started shooting back at him also another reason for him to shoot back
So you are saying LSPD can risk the life of the both officers to catch the criminals ,Nice fear for hostages Life
 

Syndra Parabellum

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First of all The officer didnt even deserve to be punished for fear rp because its not his problem that he couldn't listen you telling him '' step out of the car '' you needed to flex F8 right there second of all what you did its absolute UB and Fail rp on your side , second you robbing an officer or some citizen so we pull up and start shooting at you then when you are getting shot you decided to take him as a hostage , how is this realistic ? Admin floki vilgeroarson absolutely did the right decision in that situation

 

Anvy

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First of all The officer didnt even deserve to be punished for fear rp because its not his problem that he couldn't listen you telling him '' step out of the car '' you needed to flex F8 right there second of all what you did its absolute UB and Fail rp on your side , second you robbing an officer or some citizen so we pull up and start shooting at you then when you are getting shot you decided to take him as a hostage , how is this realistic ? Admin floki vilgeroarson absolutely did the right decision in that situation

How is realistic , how can u come shoot someone without endangering the life of your pd officer , Nice man
 

Master Jackfruit

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You guys were robbing an officer with another officer next to him dead on the floor and then reviving him to also rob him which is more than enough RP reason for an officer to shoot you guys, and you decided to take him as a hostage when he started shooting at you guys basically trying to force a rulebreak on the other side but the only person who broke the rules was you and then your gang members started shooting back at him also another reason for him to shoot back

**Regarding the recent incident**
**Time** **Situation**
6:37. - Lspd vehicle pulled over
consisting of two officers.

6:38. - Shots were fired from vagos side as ID 1567 failed to comply (Situation concluded as fear rp)

6:38. - ID 123377 complied in that situation.Stranger was robbed and taken as a hostage.

6:40 - ID 1567 complied after several warnings.At the exact moment there was 3 guns pointed at him. Just exactly 4 sec before ID 78124 (finley hawk) took ID 1567 as an hostage Single Shot was fired by one lspd officer from high ground (near highways).Then exactly within 7 seconds several shorts were fired.

6:41. - ID 78124 (Finley Hawk) and ID 117050 from vagos were shot dead by expected LSPD officer.

Conclusion:
1.None of the vagos gang member started shooting.LSPD was the first one to start.
2.Lspd didn’t cared about hostage life.
3.Even before ID 78124 (finley hawk) took the officer as a hostage there were three guns pointed at the officer still they started shooting.
4.ID 78124 was shot even when he was having the hostage in gun point.

Just want to clear it.
How can someone shoot when there 3 guns pointed at someone?
 

Finley

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So to prove my point im showing you the pov in which only one guy shot at them but then he stopped
 
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