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29012
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John Morozov
Suspect ID
0000
Date of violation
Nov 3, 2023
Time of violation
15:36
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaRrTktUpBg

John Morozov

4-term FIB leader
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As can be observed in the POV, Bloods had two hostages and gave us the following demands:

1. No one tries to climb onto roofs or to arrest their people or the hostage dies [0:29]
2. 300k for a high command hostage [9:19]
3. Free passage for another high command hostage [9:19]
4. Demanding no engine blocking and no shooting after the hostage is safe [12:55]
5. Only 3 people at negotiations or they will "put a bullet in her head", basically giving another demand (since he says the hostage will die if there will be more than 3 people) [16:50]


In total, there were 5 demands given for 2 hostages.


Next thing, the free passage demand means the removal of roadblock barricades and spikes, we removed even the cover barricades we had, fulfilling that demand, however, Bloods kept the hostage for 9 extra minutes!! (7.5 if we don't count the admin situation, admins were there for 1.5 minutes) [from 10:40 til 19:20]
Note: the big roadblocks and spikes were removed even earlier than that, but we were nice so we removed ALL barricades so they had nothing to complain about regarding the free passage demand starting from 10:40 in the POV.

During those 9 extra minutes, 10 members of Bloods left the store robbery, leaving only 3 negotiators there with the hostage, which should be considered as abuse of the fact they are keeping the hostage even though the demands were fulfilled, so we cannot do anything to the people leaving because we still have to fear for the hostage's life.
 
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Darsh Patel

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The points you have mentioned, for the 1st point, the gang requested not to climb the stairs or land the helicopter on the roof in the answer of it FIB questioned is that demand and gang confirmed it's not. 2nd points, the gang asked for 300k for a high command LEO officer, which is completely fine as per event rule 1.16. 3rd point, the gangs asked a free passage for the second hostage, which is also fine as per event rule 1.16. 4th point, gang asked to not engine block the cars which is not unrealistic demand but can be considered more of a RP negotiation same as state can offer less money for a hostage and gangs can negotiate on it. (Gang can ask to not use engine blockers however, accepting or denying it is upto state as a part of the negotiation, however state don't have to comply with it) 5th point, gang can hold a hostage with 3 members. Furthermore, for both sides, try to have more clear negotiations with detailed information on a demand so such confusion won't occur in the future and everyone can enjoy the roleplay situation.

 
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